{"id":796,"date":"2010-03-10T09:51:37","date_gmt":"2010-03-10T17:51:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.danamackenzie.com\/blog\/?p=796"},"modified":"2010-03-10T16:41:06","modified_gmt":"2010-03-11T00:41:06","slug":"team-mackenzie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/danamackenzie.com\/blog\/?p=796","title":{"rendered":"Team Mackenzie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently Mark Ginsburg had a <a href=\"http:\/\/nezhmet.wordpress.com\/2010\/02\/23\/the-fabulous-10s-all-the-ginsburgs\/\" target=\"_blank\">post in his blog<\/a> with the USCF ratings of everybody named Ginsburg. It was a pretty strong group, featuring a GM that I had never heard of (Gennady Ginsburg, rated 2527) and a strong Midwestern master (Jeff Ginsburg, rated 2331) in addition to Mark himself, who is an IM rated 2432.<\/p>\n<p>So this gave me the idea of looking up all the Mackenzies on the USCF rating list. Alas, Team Mackenzie turns out to be rather feeble compared to Team Ginsburg:<\/p>\n<p><small><\/small><\/p>\n<pre><small>USCF ID   St   Exp Date    Reg   Quick      Member Name\r\n--------  --  ----------  ------ ------ -----------------------\r\n14289814 (PA) 2010-11-30  1495P  1594P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?14289814\">MACKENZIE, ALDEN <\/a>\r\n14175231 (NV) 2010-03-31   102P   102P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?14175231\">MACKENZIE, AMANDA <\/a>\r\n13153548 (NV) 2008-02-29   305P   297P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?13153548\">MACKENZIE, ANDREW <\/a>\r\n12765246 (MD) 2000-03-31   292P   Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12765246\">MACKENZIE, ANDREW J <\/a>\r\n12479498 (NC) 1991-11-30  1526    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12479498\">MACKENZIE, BRIAN J <\/a>\r\n12606416 (  ) 1994-10-31   Unr    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12606416\">MACKENZIE, C R <\/a>\r\n12574690 (NJ) 1995-04-30  1052P   Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12574690\">MACKENZIE, CHERYL <\/a>\r\n12871153 (DC) 2004-05-31   Unr    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12871153\">MACKENZIE, COOPER <\/a>\r\n12892164 (MN) 2004-01-31   845P   Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12892164\">MACKENZIE, CURTIS P <\/a>\r\n10277604 (CA) 2011-08-31  2139   2018P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?10277604\">MACKENZIE, DANA N <\/a>\r\n12657348 (MA) 1999-08-31  1210   1295   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12657348\">MACKENZIE, IAN <\/a>\r\n13619687 (PA) 2012-01-31  1700   1715P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?13619687\">MACKENZIE, IAN ANDREW <\/a>\r\n14396260 (OH) 2011-03-31    *      *    <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?14396260\">MACKENZIE, JAMES R <\/a>\r\n12910572 (TX) 2004-08-31   100P   100P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12910572\">MACKENZIE, KEN J <\/a>\r\n14289767 (PA) 2010-11-30   Unr    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?14289767\">MACKENZIE, LOGAN <\/a>\r\n20133121 (NV) 1996-02-29  1153P   Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?20133121\">MACKENZIE, MARC <\/a>\r\n21020824 (WA) Non-Member   287P   Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?21020824\">MACKENZIE, P IAN <\/a>\r\n14289794 (PA) 2010-11-30   941P   956P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?14289794\">MACKENZIE, QUINN <\/a>\r\n12506472 (MI) Non-Member  1151    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12506472\">MACKENZIE, RAY <\/a>\r\n13850207 (NY) 2011-02-28  1467P  1436P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?13850207\">MACKENZIE, RICHARD <\/a>\r\n14289788 (PA) 2010-11-30   647P   667P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?14289788\">MACKENZIE, ROY <\/a>\r\n13354814 (IL) 2008-01-31   821P   787P  <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?13354814\">MACKENZIE, SAMUEL EDWARD <\/a>\r\n12852942 (CA) 2002-12-31   Unr    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12852942\">MACKENZIE, SCOTT <\/a>\r\n12537016 (NM) 1990-12-31  1524    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12537016\">MACKENZIE, SEAMUS H <\/a>\r\n20054239 (NE) 1992-03-31  1072    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?20054239\">MACKENZIE, TIM <\/a>\r\n13654315 (VT) 2010-05-31   Unr    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?13654315\">MACKENZIE, TODD <\/a>\r\n12935065 (RI) 2008-06-30   Unr    Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12935065\">MACKENZIE, WARREN K <\/a>\r\n12840348 (NY) Non-Member    *     Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12840348\">MACKENZIE, WAY <\/a>\r\n12702806 (MS) 1998-02-28   430P   Unr   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12702806\">MACKENZIE, WILL <\/a><\/small><\/pre>\n<p><small><\/small><\/p>\n<p>No mystery GMs, alas. If we have a fantasy chess match against Team Ginsburg, I&#8217;ll have to play against Gennady Ginsburg on board one. The highest-rated Mackenzie after me is Ian Mackenzie, who will have a tough battle against Mark Ginsburg on board two.<\/p>\n<p>I also note one player on this list (Ken Mackenzie) with a rating of 100. Is that the lowest that ratings can go? I don&#8217;t remember ever seeing a rating lower than that. Perhaps it is the Absolute Zero of rating, the rating floor of all rating floors. Team Ginsburg also has a 100 player, Lily Ginsburg. This might be one of the best matchups of the Ginsburg vs. Mackenzie smackdown.<\/p>\n<p>Another fun game to play with this list is to look at USCF ID numbers. You can tell people who were USCF members back in the mid-1970s when they first computerized their membership list, because we have ID numbers that begin &#8220;10.&#8221; Alas, I am the only surviving Mackenzie from the pre-computer era.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, really savvy old-timers know that the original USCF ID numbers were assigned geographically. So a member whose ID number begins 1027, like mine, lived in Ohio or Indiana in the mid-1970s. This created some puzzlement when I moved to Ohio in 1989, after many years of living in other places. I won my very first tournament in Ohio, and some people wondered who was this &#8220;mystery master&#8221; who had just shown up with an OLD identification number that seemed to show he was from Ohio, yet no one could remember him. The answer was that I used to live in Indiana, and I had a different name then. (I changed my name from Dana Nance to Dana Mackenzie when I got married.)<\/p>\n<p>Team Mackenzie does have one thing that Team Ginsburg doesn&#8217;t have: a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chess.com\/article\/view\/george-mackenzie\" target=\"_blank\">former (albeit deceased) U.S. champion<\/a>, George Mackenzie. Note that Team Ginsburg is NOT allowed to claim <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Isidor_Gunsberg\" target=\"_blank\">Isidor Gunsberg<\/a>, who according to one calculation was the world&#8217;s #2 player in the late 1880s and probably could have beaten George Mackenzie. But as Mark clearly explains in his blog, &#8220;berg&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;burg&#8221; and therefore Gunsberg is not a variant of Ginsburg.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I&#8217;d like to point out that we become a lot more competitive when you allow Mackenzie as a first name, because we can then play Mackenzie Molner on first board. Unless he is disqualified on the technicality that the USCF misspells his first name!<\/p>\n<p><small><\/small><\/p>\n<pre><small>USCF ID   St   Exp Date    Reg   Quick      Member Name\r\n--------  --  ----------  ------ ------ -----------------------\r\n12662506 (NJ) 2011-01-31  2454   2287   <a href=\"http:\/\/main.uschess.org\/assets\/msa_joomla\/MbrDtlMain.php?12662506\">MOLNER, MACKENIZE S <\/a><\/small><\/pre>\n<p><small><\/small><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently Mark Ginsburg had a post in his blog with the USCF ratings of everybody named Ginsburg. 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